After giving birth to her second child, a son named Moses, Gwyneth Paltrow wasn’t herself. Thankfully, husband Chris Martin stepped in to help the star realize she was struggling with postpartum depression.

“I couldn’t connect with my son the way that I had with my daughter [Apple, now 7] and I couldn’t understand why,” Gwyneth Paltrow said on Thursday’s premiere episode of Lifetime’s The Conversation With Amanda de Cadenet. “I couldn’t connect to anyone. I felt like a zombie. I felt very detached.”

“I just didn’t know what was wrong with me,” the 39-year-old GOOP creator continued, “I couldn’t figure it out. It never occurred to me. My husband actually said, ‘Something’s wrong. I think you have postnatal depression.’”

Though he ended up being correct, Gwyneth Paltrow wasn’t initially receptive to the idea. She continued, “I was mortified. ‘No I don’t!’ And then I started researching what it was and the symptoms and I was like, ‘Oh, yes I do.’”

“We think that it makes us bad mothers or we didn’t do it right, but it’s like, we’re all in this together,” she went on to say of PPD. “I never understand why mothers judge other mothers, like, ‘What do you mean you didn’t breastfeed? What do you mean you didn’t do this?’ It’s like, ‘Can’t we all just be on each other’s side?’ It’s so hard anyway. Can’t we all help each other get through it? There’s a shame attached to it because if you say, ‘I had a baby and I couldn’t connect to the baby,’ it’s like, ‘What is wrong with you?’”

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